Anyone here have a Tronxy X5S?

The fan problem is definitely bearings. 40mm fans are not horribly expensive for quality parts. I expect Iā€™ll be buying one, and I probably am at least partly to blame for early demise for overheating it testing an overly-insulating enclosure. But it might be a hint to you not to over-do the insulation when you find a round tuit.

Turns out that I didnā€™t tighten the heat sink tight enough so the head was pivoting slightly, which was almost certainly the cause of dragged lines. Given that, Iā€™m impressed that I got a maybe-usable part at all. I canā€™t re-test right now because I re-zeroed on hairspray for printing parts for the family, but it gives me hope that Iā€™ll get ABS right some day. :slight_smile:

Iā€™ve already replace the original fan due to trying to tighten an alternative part cooling piece and missing by a little bit with the screw driver - taking out two fan blades and throwing it all off balance. Iā€™ve since stopped tinkering while the power was on. (A bad idea to begin with.)

Thanks for all the hints.

Turns out the power switch came with only a 5A fuse. That works not so well protecting both the 360W 12V and 480W 24V power supplies from 120V maybe! I wonder what fuses I have handyā€¦ OK, 8A should at least last longer, but I should probably put a 12A fuse on my shopping list.

@mcdanlj - Understanding watts, amps, volts, and how to convert between each is something I wanted to learn long ago, but never got around to. Then our kids actually learned that as part of their 8th grade classes. (Standard in Japanese middle school.)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Ohms_law_wheel_WVOA.svg is a nice cheat sheet.

I just guestimated before. Let me do the math and see what happensā€¦

8A would be a little dodgy if it were running at full load, because 360W+480W=840W/120V=7A/80%efficient=8.75A ā€” but Iā€™m not using most of the 360W since the heatbed originally intended to be supplied from that 360W is instead being supplied by the ā€œ24Vā€ controller. (This is evidenced by the fact that it ran more more than 24 hours before the 5A fuse blew.) I havenā€™t measured the exact 12V power draw, but the nozzle has a 40W heating element and the steppers arenā€™t drawing 1A each axis (they run cool), so at less than 48W for the steppers, a few watts for fans, and peanuts for the arduino, thatā€™s probably around 100W total. Then I know that Iā€™m actually drawing 15A on the heat bed, so thatā€™s 408W because 15A*27.2V=408W. So 408W+100W=508W would be a reasonable estimate for normal power use, and 508W/120V=4.23A/80%=5.3A ā€” which makes perfect sense for the 5A fuse not blowing for a while but blowing when I turned on both bed and nozzle heat at the same time on a cold printer. ~40% engineering margin is probably reasonable, so an 8A fuse is actually probably about right.

Cool! I donā€™t have to or want to buy a different fuse! At least for now.

Once I made it clear to Tronxy that I was actually suggesting that they follow the license for Marlin and release source code, I got no more responses. :frowning:

cyberbask on thingiverse configured Marlin 1.1.6 to the Tronxy X5S board. Iā€™m in the middle of installing Umikaze on a BBG to try replacing the board with a real computer so I havenā€™t tried building it.

Itā€™s at least not ancient, unlike the janky firmware provided with the printer. I changed the default language to English and put English instructions in the commit message, but thatā€™s it. I canā€™t even say ā€œYMMVā€ because I didnā€™t even try my own milage!

The lead screws I bought were 500mm 2mm pitch 2mm lead single-start https://www.ebay.com/itm/T8-Lead-Screw-Pitch-2mm-Lead-8mm-4mm-2mm-Nut-for-3D-Printer-CNC-Machine/232438424451 and they arrived minimally but sufficiently packaged in a hard plastic tube inside a paper envelope, with packing peanuts at either end of the tube, and tightly wrapped together, with the nuts in separate packaging with both bubble wrap and foam to protect them. The screws appear fully straight and the nuts thread smooth. Iā€™ll have to cut the rods down a little bit to fit, and Iā€™ll put the cut ends into the stepper motor couplers to avoid damaging the threads on the nuts.

(I wonā€™t be able to report on this project for a week or two because I have to finish some printing projects first. :relaxed:)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/T8-Lead-Screw-Pitch-2mm-Lead-8mm-4mm-2mm-Nut-for-3D-Printer-CNC-Machine/232438424451?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=531735636360&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

On the other hand, the https://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Printer-V6-2-in-1-out-2-in-2-out-Cyclops-Chimera-Print-head-Extruder/232472493674 heat sink has the set screws on the back instead of the sides, to make machining a little easier, but also making it basically impossible to mount correctly so that the heat breaks can be fixed tram to the bed. Thatā€™s not awesome. I havenā€™t worked out a way to mount it using the existing X cart and expose the set screws. The picture clearly shows the missing set screw holes, I just didnā€™t see it.

[Edit: turns out the three mounting holes on the top of the heat sink are not M3 as they are supposed to be, and the holes on the back of the heat sink are off by over 2mm from where they are supposed to be, so it wonā€™t fit properly on anything designed to spec.]

I was planning to use the Chimera, so probably I can use the heater cartridge from the Cyclops in the existing heater block if/when I convert to 24V.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Printer-V6-2-in-1-out-2-in-2-out-Cyclops-Chimera-Print-head-Extruder/232472493674

@mcdanlj

Creating a new X carriage is just some time spent in TinkerCAD, Fusion 360, or other software. That should be fairly easy and fun.

But why the new lead screws? Were the ones that shipped with the X5S bent? Or are you already modifying to build it taller? Or perhaps use them for X and Y instead of CoreXY?

It seems that I missed something in your modification mission plan. :wink:

The lead screws are single-start 2mm lead instead of 8mm lead to reduce creep. The sides can get out of sync from just adjusting the Z endstop screw. Single-start fixes that. At least, it has on my i3 clone.

I want to use the existing steel plates for the X carriage. Itā€™s just that the cyclops/chimera heat sink set screws are blocked by the lower wheel on the X carriage. The problem isnā€™t designing the part in OpenSCAD or FreeCAD, given a design concept. Itā€™s coming up with the design.

http://openbuildspartstore.com/v-slot-gantry-plate-20mm/ might be another baseline that might make it easier to build new X carriage.

That looks like a nice general purpose gantry. Iā€™ve noticed the three wheels allow some wobble when it changes direction sometimes. Itā€™s probably due to one of the add-ons Iā€™ve done allowing the wheels to no longer keep all three tight. Going with four wheels might help stabilize it.

I printed a prototype from PLA just to see whether it could work, but it would not work directly because the belt slots arenā€™t tall enough. Would need either to extend the slots (dremel?) or print an attachment for the belts, and I could cut out the middle in order to be able to access the back of the heat sink. I would get http://openbuildspartstore.com/v-slot-gantry-set/ with the wheels included rather than buy the parts separately.

The larger holes along one side of the plate are for eccentric spacers that let you adjust the wheels with the right tension and no load.

Might be possible to use these as Y gantry upgrade plates, too. Iā€™d like to be 100% sure before paying $90 for a set of three, though! :slight_smile:

Since I had some filament grinding earlier, I didnā€™t realize I was skipping extruder steps sometimes. Looks like I also need to adjust current for the extruder axis.

@mcdanlj - That reminds me. I had a problem with some filament going through the Bowden Tube. It would twist and jam up, causing the extruder to skip and chew up filament.

My solution was to extend a hook from the neighboring cabinet and hold the Bowden Tube up over the center with a rubber band. Like this:

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Huh. I tied mine loosely to the drag chain.

Iā€™ve thought about putting the extruders above the cube for minimum Bowden length

The SD card isnā€™t reliably detected, and print from USB isnā€™t working either. The former seems to be faulty component, the latter firmware problem.

Iā€™m removing and reinserting the SD card about 5 times each time I go to print. Iā€™m not planning to debug this, instead Iā€™m moving toward using a replicape ASAP.

Since I wanted to use a BLTouch, I abandoned the controller it came with and went with a cheap GT-2560 A. It doesnā€™t have an SD card, and I couldnā€™t get the screen that came with the X5S to work with it.

But OctoPrint on a Raspberry Pi connected via USB works like a charm. And can be controlled from my desk on the other side of the room or monitored with the camera elsewhere in the house.

slic3r didnā€™t like the light but stiff Y carriage design I wanted to print, but I didnā€™t like how cura sliced it, so I used both FreeCAD and OpenSCAD to make a model that both versions of slic3r will slice. I havenā€™t printed this version yet because the printer has about 8 hours left to go printing euclidean and archimedean solids for my family mathematician. :relaxed:

(I previously printed it sliced with cura in ABS, but I wasnā€™t satisfied with the print, and PLA+ is so much easier to print withā€¦)

Finally finished this step of moving toward using a Replicape: https://github.com/johnsonm/Replicase

Upgraded firmware to 1.1.8 and it fixes a lot of my annoyances with the included firmware: https://github.com/johnsonm/Marlin/tree/tronxy-x5s-1.1.8