Today we achieved a major milestone at Deltaprintr. Very proud of our team! #3dprinting
Plastics wrapping cardboard?
nono its the shipping of the 200 ( or more) deltaprintr’s 
how come so many printers are axing the heated build plate? Cost and complexity? Smugness about PLA?
@Mike_Kelly_Mike_Make Good heated beds are expensive and it also requires more expensive power supply. Although it is needed for ABS and other materials, I think PLA is becoming the #1 choice of plastic and therefore with good calibration, a heated bed is not really necessary.
@Mike_Kelly_Mike_Make , heated bed adds complexity. Most users don’t need more than just PLA. Also requires a beefier power supply, adds cost, etc.
and more pla alike plastics are coming not needing high heat 
Most filaments, even PLA, benefits from a heated bed. Further not having a heated bed means you’re limited to very few filaments besides PLA. Even Taulman Bridge suggests a 70C bed.
Seems to me adding a little more to the cost would be a wiser business investment to appeal to a broader audience.
PLA doesn’t benefit from a heated build surface if you’re printing on the right material. In fact, it can suffer if you don’t do it correctly.
@Mike_Kelly_Mike_Make That is why most 3D Printer companies have a variety of models, to appeal to a broader audience 
You don’t see every car with a sun roof, because not everyone needs it nor the extra cost that comes with it.
I’d love to include a heated bed with my printers- it would simplify everything. But it would raise cost $100 at least and PSU is unsightly to me at least. We are inching towards a better middle of the road product offering to help these two issues.
@Shai_Schechter @ThantiK I would agree that PLA is becoming a reference point. We have been working a new PLA for 7 months and it will be released next Month. It will be an engineering PLA as the new size sensors allow us to maintain a much tighter spec. It will also come on 1kg spools as we want to be compared to others in the maker space.
@Brook_Drumm I would like to help with the power supply solution. What kind of amperage does a Printrbot push with the bed on and what about going to 24v electronics?
@ThantiK Try running PLA in a sub 20C room then come tell me a heated bed doesn’t help PLA. Versatility is everything and intentionally neutering a printers cababilities to save a few bucks is just not something I’ll understand. 40C bed helps with adhesion on hairspray as well and is easier to use than tape.
@Shai_Schechter no offense but that’s a terrible analogy. A better one would be saying that not every car would need a Air Conditioner because people in cooler climates would never need it. Though then if you only sold cars without A/C you’d be limiting you market. This isn’t really regarding you because you sell your printer for very affordable pricing, more a general trend I’ve been noticing.
@Brook_Drumm I definitely understand that sub $600 printers simply can’t justify a heated bed, that’s at least $100 in components alone if you need an upgraded power supply, heater, and glass/aluminum build surface. Though you at least offer the upgrade, most people I’ve seen with no HBP don’t.
People make PLA out to be the be all end all material, but it has a lot of drawbacks (brittle, low melting point, poor polishing, poor post processing) Sure you’re right most people don’t care about this when they start, but once they realize how poor PLA is at certain applications they’ll investigate other options and be SOL when they realize most of them require a heated build surface.
Especially if you’re buying a $1000+ printer, it better have a heated build plate to justify that cost.
@Mike_Kelly_Mike_Make , printing in 15C temps today just fine. I don’t use tape, hairspray, or a heated bed. I print on an unheated acrylic plate.
PLA isn’t the end all, be-all material. But those who are advanced enough to understand why they need a different material, have the knowledge needed to add a build plate if they wanted.
It also adds a WHOLE NEW knowledge domain to 3D printing that people just don’t want to deal with. Having to deal with proper temperature ranges, thermal expansion, a plethora of differing build surfaces for different materials, etc. The aim is to make it simple, most customers aren’t on their second, or third, or fourth printer.
10C then. There is a lower limit. I didn’t use the heated bed feature until my PLA prints started to warp. I just think a $2300 printer should include this very common and basic feature without needing to spend more money to get it.
Who in their right mind is going to be printing in a room at 10C anyways? Seriously.
some people have unheated garages and limited space elsewhere. Not everyone has a warehouse to print in.
Considering different viewpoints is important. Also not everyone can print straight on acrylic as easily as you. Some people struggle so bad they return their printer (true story)
My garage is often at 10-15C this time of year, so… I would LOVE to have an enclosed printer!
@ThantiK
when/if 3d printers become ‘fit-n-forget’ then garages/cellars/lofts make sense, so i’d need 0C, (if not -5C) as a min.