That feeling when a print fails overnight.
https://youtu.be/Y4Z7Ds_yv8o
Its worse when it fails due to a windows update 3 hours into the print…no more usb prints for me!
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I disabled the windows update service on my print laptop, but now I run all the printers off raspberry pi’s and octoprint.
Yeah, I have a few running on Pi’s, as well as SD cards, I was being lazy and it caught up to me, lesson learned.
Is it possible to prevent auto-updates on Windows 10? I had even set the working hours from 12 pm - 12 am, and this happened right in the middle of that time frame.
Yeah I just use an SD card for all of my stuff. I didn’t want to leave my PC on for hours on end.
That’s why octoprint pays itself off almost immediately. Been running it on a Zero W without issues.
Never had a problem, apart from accidentally unplugging ( tripping over ) the USB cable.
Dedicated old laptop, updates switched off, windows 7.
I know that feeling well.
I just had one fail after about 50 hrs of printing
For Win10, there’s no way for mere mortals to disable auto updates. However, for the more tech advanced minds, there are several registry entries that can be changed to turn it off. On my work station I have it set to tell me about updates, but never auto install. I do a lot of overnight video renderings and auto updates used to mess those up constantly. No more! You can find instructions on Google. Be warned, you will be mucking about in the registry. One false move and you could render the OS “broken”, then you’d have a much bigger problem.
I’ll take a look tonite, I already consider windows a “broken” OS, so there is nothing to fear there…
If only linux could have penetrated the desktop market…or OS2 for that matter…
I prefer not to make myself vulnerable by ditching security updates. It’s better to make your printer more stand-alone (SD card or wifi-enabled printer board) and octoprint has its own laundry list of vulnerabilities. I just separate my setup and printing operations to best insure my operation from unexpected failures.
@PrintinAddiction Windows 10 Pro still has computer management (right click my computer -> manage) and you can disable the windows update service. I don’t know if it stays disabled (my laptop was windows 8.1) or whether it re-enables itself after a while, or if it works for windows 10 home and I wouldn’t leave it off if it’s your main PC.
My print laptop was used for nothing but running the printer and it’s behind a hardware firewall so I saw nothing wrong with leaving it “vulnerable” while printing.
+Ben Van Den Brock , never said I was ditching updates. I simply apply them at my convenience, not when Microsoft thinks it should while completely ignoring the fact that the machine is doing something.
@Ashley_M_Kirchner_No ok good
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@Ben_Van_Den_Broeck
Yes, especially with the randsome-ware worm that just went around, security updates are a necessity, but not so great in the middle of a 3 hour print.
That’s the other thing: this isn’t the first time that ransomware thing has been around. And regardless of what it is (ransomware, nuclear virus, crypt keeper), if you maintain your systems, there’s nothing to worry about. An active anti-virus that’s always updated (daily), proper firewall on your system and network, and common sense and READ what you’re clicking on. I’ve been in IT for over 30 years and have seen some pretty dumb things in my life. Yet, of the multitude of devices I’ve owned, I have never, ever, had a single virus infect my systems. I’ve never had any successful break-ins either on any of my servers, windows or unix. I HAVE had many failed attempts. I HAVE had many infected floppies, zip disks, thumb drives, and what not that were given to me. I HAVE had many viruses try to infiltrate, but never have I had any that cause any infection. In fact there was a time I actively collected them. I had floppy discs with various viruses on them. Over time it just became ridiculous with the amount of viruses that were going around on a daily basis (I easily saw 700+ come across my internet connection on a weekly basis and get stopped dead.)
And, just in case I just jinxed myself, the next three things to always have are backup, backup, backup. When was the last time you did a full backup of your system, as well as data files? If your system were to blow up right this second, what are you losing? For me, I can tell you, I will lose exactly ZIP, ZERO, NADA. Not from my computers, servers, or even my tablet or phone. There is nothing on my systems that I will lose should my machine die right this second (other than this message I’m typing.) I have everything backed up on external (network filtered) drives and that gets refreshed every night. Even the OS drive, if it fails mechanically right now, I can swap it out and be back up and running within 20 minutes with nothing lost and without needing to re-install everything again.
A little bit of proper configuring and setups will prevent major headaches later. Do the homework.
Wow, that was a mouthful…
I think you are assuming a lot if you think I need a lecture on backups, virus definitions and firewalls. I’m not going to get drawn into an heavy IT debate with you, you win.
If my system were to blow up, I would not really care as I save all of my work to my SAN and perform regular cloud backups of it (Synology). I would have to re-install some apps, but nothing to lose sleep over as most of the configs are on the SAN as well. The only ports that are open on my firewall are the ones I need, but since my cert expired I have closed them all down.
I’ve been around for quite a few years as well, and your comment “if you maintain your systems, there’s nothing to worry about” made me laugh.
You think that the antivirus providers are always one step ahead of the hackers, really? You think Microsoft is always ahead of them? They didnt even know about the recent vulnerabilities until they were leaked. Its better to be as prepared as possible I agree, but nothing is fool proof, especially with todays OSs and everything being connected.
I remember some real nasty viruses that would write themselves to the boot blocks on floppies, and would run as TSRs, infect every floppy inserted into the system, and were almost unremovable.
One more thing, just because you can run regedit you are not immortal…
That being said, a lot of your points are valid, it was the delivery and tone that I felt was off…
I run my prints off SD cards and/or Octoprint on a Pi too, but for those running long prints on a laptop/desktop, I would think that by restarting your computer so that any pending updates are installed, and disconnecting it from the internet so no new updates can be downloaded would probably help prevent some of those failed prints.
Makes it difficult connecting to thingiverse…
oh, and G+