New 3D delta and all my prints are slanted

This is my first time building up a 3D printer, and I am running into issues. I now have 8 Benchie3D’s that all have tilt, to the same degree and I cant seem to find the root cause.

I have tried:

  • Rotating the effector
  • Changing around my endstops to try and make things worse/better
  • Adjusting my arm_radius (was 178.54, now is 183.5)
  • Tightening the belts
  • Running a full tune
  • Running with no tuning (remove config-override delta.grid, then resting)
  • Printing through OctoPrint, Printing local SD card (print foo.gcode)
  • Making sure my machine is square

My controller is a bit different than most. I am running an SDK V1.3 board with uStepperS drivers in a closed loop configuration.

I am honestly kinda stumped. I cant seem to find anything that effects the tilt, for better or worse. Any ideas???

More info that I hope can help:

(My calibration sequence) 
G32 G28 (Full calibration, then return to home)
(Manually: jog down to touch the plate)
M306 Z0 (Set Z to 0)
G28 (Go home)
M500 (Save it)
reset
G31 (Full bed leveling)
M374 (Save bed leveling)
reset
Send: version
Recv: Build version: edge-6a09a62, Build date: May  6 2019 12:53:34, MCU: LPC1768, System Clock: 100MHz
Recv: 5 axis
root@octopi:~# cat config.txt
# Smoothieboard configuration file, see http://smoothieware.org/configuring-smoothie
# NOTE Lines must not exceed 132 characters, and '#' characters mean what follows is ignored
## Robot module configurations : general handling of movement G-codes and slicing into moves

# Basic motion configuration
default_feed_rate                            8000             # Default speed (mm/minute) for G1/G2/G3 moves
default_seek_rate                            8000             # Default speed (mm/minute) for G0 moves
mm_per_arc_segment                           0.0              # Fixed length for line segments that divide arcs, 0 to disable
#mm_per_line_segment                         5                # Cut lines into segments this size
mm_max_arc_error                             0.01             # The maximum error for line segments that divide arcs 0 to disable
                                                              # note it is invalid for both the above be 0
                                                              # if both are used, will use largest segment length based on radius
delta_segments_per_second                    100              # For deltas only, number of segments per second, set to 0 to disable
                                                              # and use mm_per_line_segment

# Arm solution configuration : Cartesian robot. Translates mm positions into stepper positions
# See http://smoothieware.org/stepper-motors
#alpha_steps_per_mm                           76.26            # Steps per mm for alpha ( X ) stepper and tower @1/12
#beta_steps_per_mm                            76.26            # Steps per mm for beta ( Y ) stepper and tower @1/12
#gamma_steps_per_mm                           76.26            # Steps per mm for gamma ( Z ) stepper and tower @1/12

alpha_steps_per_mm                           150            # Steps per mm for alpha ( X ) stepper and tower
beta_steps_per_mm                            150            # Steps per mm for beta ( Y ) stepper and tower
gamma_steps_per_mm                           150            # Steps per mm for gamma ( Z ) stepper and tower

# Delta configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/delta
arm_solution                                 linear_delta     # Selects the linear delta arm solution
#arm_length                                   250.0            # This is the length of an arm from hinge to hinge
#arm_radius                                   124.0            # This is the horizontal distance from hinge to hinge when the effector is centered
arm_length                                   304.11           # this is the length of an arm from hinge to hinge
#arm_radius                                   178.54           # this is the horizontal distance from hinge to hinge (CAD value)
arm_radius                                   183.5           # this is the horizontal distance from hinge to hinge (Guessing with grid numbers)



# Planner module configuration : Look-ahead and acceleration configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/motion-control
acceleration                                 3000             # Acceleration in mm/second/second.
#z_acceleration                              500              # Acceleration for Z only moves in mm/s^2, 0 uses acceleration which is the default. DO NOT SET ON A DELTA
#junction_deviation                           0.05             # See http://smoothieware.org/motion-control#junction-deviation
junction_deviation                           0.001             # See http://smoothieware.org/motion-control#junction-deviation, updated as per the Nimble documentation
#z_junction_deviation                        0.0              # For Z only moves, -1 uses junction_deviation, zero disables junction_deviation on z moves DO NOT SET ON A DELTA

# Cartesian axis speed limits
x_axis_max_speed                             21000           # Maximum speed in mm/min
y_axis_max_speed                             21000           # Maximum speed in mm/min
z_axis_max_speed                             21000           # Maximum speed in mm/min

# Stepper module configuration
# Pins are defined as  ports, and pin numbers, appending "!" to the number will invert a pin
# See http://smoothieware.org/pin-configuration and http://smoothieware.org/pinout
alpha_step_pin                               2.2              # Pin for alpha stepper step signal
alpha_dir_pin                                2.6              # Pin for alpha stepper direction, add '!' to reverse direction
alpha_en_pin                                 2.1              # Pin for alpha enable pin
alpha_current                                1.5              # M1 stepper motor current
alpha_max_rate                               24500            # Maximum rate in mm/min

beta_step_pin                                0.19             # Pin for beta stepper step signal
beta_dir_pin                                 0.20             # Pin for beta stepper direction, add '!' to reverse direction
beta_en_pin                                  2.8              # Pin for beta enable
beta_current                                 1.5              # M2 stepper motor current
beta_max_rate                                24500            # Maxmimum rate in mm/min

gamma_step_pin                               0.22             # Pin for gamma stepper step signal
gamma_dir_pin                                2.11             # Pin for gamma stepper direction, add '!' to reverse direction
gamma_en_pin                                 0.21             # Pin for gamma enable
gamma_current                                1.5              # M3 stepper motor current
gamma_max_rate                               24500            # Maximum rate in mm/min

## Extruder module configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/extruder
extruder.hotend.enable                          true          # Whether to activate the extruder module at all. All configuration is ignored if false
#extruder.hotend.steps_per_mm                    130           # Steps per mm for extruder stepper
extruder.hotend.steps_per_mm                    2630          # Steps per mm for extruder stepper, updated for nimble, 30:1 gear, 1/16 micro stepping, GOLD, tested on 100CM
extruder.hotend.default_feed_rate               600           # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for moves where only the extruder moves
extruder.hotend.acceleration                    120           # Acceleration for the stepper motor mm/sec²
extruder.hotend.max_speed                       150            # Maximum speed in mm/s

extruder.hotend.step_pin                        2.13          # Pin for extruder step signal
extruder.hotend.dir_pin                         0.11!          # Pin for extruder dir signal ( add '!' to reverse direction )
extruder.hotend.en_pin                          2.12          # Pin for extruder enable signal

# Extruder offset
#extruder.hotend.x_offset                        0            # X offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend.y_offset                        0            # Y offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend.z_offset                        0            # Z offset from origin in mm

# Firmware retract settings when using G10/G11, these are the defaults if not defined, must be defined for each extruder if not using the defaults
extruder.hotend.retract_length                   0.8           # Retract length in mm, as per the E3D V6 wiki, for PLA
#extruder.hotend.retract_feedrate                45           # Retract feedrate in mm/sec
#extruder.hotend.retract_recover_length          0            # Additional length for recover
#extruder.hotend.retract_recover_feedrate        8            # Recover feedrate in mm/sec (should be less than retract feedrate)
#extruder.hotend.retract_zlift_length            0            # Z-lift on retract in mm, 0 disables
#extruder.hotend.retract_zlift_feedrate          6000         # Z-lift feedrate in mm/min (Note mm/min NOT mm/sec)


## Laser module configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/laser
laser_module_enable                           false           # Whether to activate the laser module at all

## Temperature control configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/temperaturecontrol
# First hotend configuration
temperature_control.hotend.enable            true             # Whether to activate this ( "hotend" ) module at all.
#temperature_control.hotend.thermistor_pin    0.24             # Pin for the thermistor to read
temperature_control.hotend.heater_pin        2.5              # Pin that controls the heater, set to nc if a readonly thermistor is being defined, H-BED
#temperature_control.hotend.thermistor        EPCOS100K        # See http://smoothieware.org/temperaturecontrol#toc5
#temperature_control.hotend.beta              3950             # Or set the beta value
temperature_control.hotend.set_m_code        104              # M-code to set the temperature for this module
temperature_control.hotend.set_and_wait_m_code 109            # M-code to set-and-wait for this module
temperature_control.hotend.designator        T                # Designator letter for this module
temperature_control.hotend.max_temp          450              # Set maximum temperature - Will prevent heating above 300 by default
#temperature_control.hotend.min_temp         0                # Set minimum temperature - Will prevent heating below if set
temperature_control.hotend.sensor              pt100_e3d
temperature_control.hotend.e3d_amplifier_pin   1.30        # must be a free ADC pin, not a temperature input

# Safety control is enabled by default and can be overidden here, the values show the defaults
# See http://smoothieware.org/temperaturecontrol#runaway
#temperature_control.hotend.runaway_heating_timeout      900  # How long it can take to heat up, max is 2040 seconds.
#temperature_control.hotend.runaway_cooling_timeout        0  # How long it can take to cool down if temp is set lower, max is 2040 seconds
#temperature_control.hotend.runaway_range                20   # How far from the set temperature it can wander, max setting is 63°C

# PID configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/temperaturecontrol#pid
#Auto tune: M303 E0 S190
temperature_control.hotend.p_factor         22.6             # P ( proportional ) factor
temperature_control.hotend.i_factor         1.065            # I ( integral ) factor
temperature_control.hotend.d_factor         120               # D ( derivative ) factor

temperature_control.hotend.max_pwm          192               # Max pwm, 64 is a good value if driving a 12v resistor with 24v.
temperature_control.hotend.i_max            192               # Maximum value for the I variable in the PID control. This should usually be set to about the same value as Max_pwm

temperature_control.bed.enable               true             # Whether to activate this ( "hotend" ) module at all.
temperature_control.bed.thermistor_pin       0.23             # Pin for the thermistor to read
#temperature_control.bed.heater_pin           2.5              # Pin that controls the heater
temperature_control.bed.heater_pin           2.7              # Pin that controls the heater (HE0)
temperature_control.bed.thermistor           Semitec-104NT4   # See http://smoothieware.org/temperaturecontrol#thermistor, SeeMeCNC Rev 10 heated bed thermistor
#temperature_control.bed.beta                3974             # Or set the beta value
temperature_control.bed.set_m_code           140              # M-code to set the temperature for this module
temperature_control.bed.set_and_wait_m_code  190              # M-code to set-and-wait for this module
temperature_control.bed.designator           B                # Designator letter for this module

## Temperatureswitch
# See http://smoothieware.org/temperatureswitch
# Automatically toggle a switch at a specified temperature. Different ones of these may be defined to monitor different temperatures and switch different swithxes
# Useful to turn on a fan or water pump to cool the hotend
temperatureswitch.hotend.enable              true             # enable this module
temperatureswitch.hotend.switch                 fan           # select which MOSFET to use, must match a switch configuration (fan2 below)
temperatureswitch.hotend.designator             T             # first character of the temperature control designator to use as the temperature sensor to monitor
temperatureswitch.hotend.threshold_temp         65.0          # temperature to turn on (if rising) or off the switch
temperatureswitch.hotend.heatup_poll            5             # poll heatup at 15 sec intervals
temperatureswitch.hotend.cooldown_poll          60            # poll cooldown at 60 sec intervals

## Switch modules
# See http://smoothieware.org/switch

# Switch module for fan control
switch.fan.enable                            true             # Enable this module
#switch.fan.input_on_command                  M106             # Command that will turn this switch on
#switch.fan.input_off_command                 M107             # Command that will turn this switch off
switch.fan.output_pin                        2.3              # Pin this module controls
switch.fan.output_type                       digital          # PWM output settable with S parameter in the input_on_comand, switched to digital for a more like on/off operation
#switch.fan.max_pwm                          255              # Set max pwm for the pin default is 255

## Endstops
# See http://smoothieware.org/endstops
endstops_enable                              true             # The endstop module is disabled by default and must be enabled here
delta_homing                                 true             # Forces all three axis to home a the same time regardless of what is specified in G28
alpha_min_endstop                            nc               # Pin to read min endstop, add a ! to invert if endstop is NO connected to ground
alpha_max_endstop                            1.28!^           # Pin to read max endstop, uncomment this and comment the above if using max endstops
alpha_homing_direction                       home_to_max      # Or set to home_to_max and set alpha_max and uncomment the alpha_max_endstop
alpha_max                                    0                # This gets loaded as the current position after homing when home_to_max is set
beta_min_endstop                             nc               # Pin to read min endstop, add a ! to invert if endstop is NO connected to ground
beta_max_endstop                             1.26!^           # Pin to read max endstop, uncomment this and comment the above if using max endstops
beta_homing_direction                        home_to_max      # Or set to home_to_max and set alpha_max and uncomment the alpha_max_endstop
beta_max                                     0                # This gets loaded as the current position after homing when home_to_max is set
gamma_min_endstop                            nc               # Pin to read min endstop, add a ! to invert if endstop is NO connected to ground
gamma_max_endstop                            1.24!^           # Pin to read max endstop, uncomment this and comment the above if using max endstops
gamma_homing_direction                       home_to_max      # Or set to home_to_max and set alpha_max and uncomment the alpha_max_endstop

alpha_max_travel                             1000             # Max travel in mm for alpha/X axis when homing
beta_max_travel                              1000             # Max travel in mm for beta/Y axis when homing
gamma_max_travel                             1000             # Max travel in mm for gamma/Z axis when homing

# Endstops home at their fast feedrate first, then once the endstop is found they home again at their slow feedrate for accuracy
alpha_fast_homing_rate_mm_s                  150              # Alpha tower fast homing feedrate in mm/second
alpha_slow_homing_rate_mm_s                  20               # Alpha tower slow homing feedrate in mm/second
beta_fast_homing_rate_mm_s                   150              # Beta  tower fast homing feedrate in mm/second
beta_slow_homing_rate_mm_s                   20               # Beta  tower slow homing feedrate in mm/second
gamma_fast_homing_rate_mm_s                  150              # Gamma tower fast homing feedrate in mm/second
gamma_slow_homing_rate_mm_s                  20               # Gamma tower slow homing feedrate in mm/second

alpha_homing_retract_mm                      5                # Distance to retract from the endstop after it is hit for alpha/X
beta_homing_retract_mm                       5                # Distance to retract from the endstop after it is hit for beta/Y
gamma_homing_retract_mm                      5                # Distance to retract from the endstop after it is hit for gamma/Z


# Endstop debouncing options
#endstop_debounce_count                       100              # Uncomment if you get noise on your endstops, default is 100
#endstop_debounce_ms                          1                # Uncomment if you get noise on your endstops, default is 1 millisecond debounce

# Endstop trim options
alpha_trim_mm                                   0                # Software trim for alpha stepper endstop (in mm)
beta_trim_mm                                    0                # Software trim for beta stepper endstop (in mm)
gamma_trim_mm                                   0                # Software trim for gamma stepper endstop (in mm)

# End of endstop config
# Delete the above endstop section and uncomment next line and copy and edit Snippets/abc-endstop.config file to enable endstops for ABC axis
#include abc-endstop.config

## Z-probe
# See http://smoothieware.org/zprobe
zprobe.enable                                true            # Set to true to enable a zprobe
#zprobe.probe_pin                             1.29^           # Pin probe is attached to, if NC remove the !
zprobe.probe_pin                             1.29^          # Pin probe is attached to, if NC remove the !
#probe.debounce_ms                            2               # Set if noisy
zprobe.fast_feedrate                         200              # move feedrate mm/sec
zprobe.slow_feedrate                         5               # Mm/sec probe feed rate
zprobe.return_feedrate                       200             # feedrate after a probe, default 0 is double of slow_feedrate (mm/s)
zprobe.probe_height                          10              # How much above bed to start probe
#gamma_min_endstop                           nc              # Normally 1.28. Change to nc to prevent conflict,
#CRITICAL!  This sets to MAX travle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zprobe.max_z                                 536.5667          # Maximum Z (was gamma_max)
gamma_max                                    536.5667           # This gets loaded as the current position after homing when home_to_max is set

# Levelling strategy

# Example for the delta calibration strategy
leveling-strategy.delta-calibration.enable   true            # Enable basic delta calibration
leveling-strategy.delta-calibration.radius   110             # the probe radius

# Example for the delta grid leveling strategy
leveling-strategy.delta-grid.enable          true            # Enable grid leveling
leveling-strategy.delta-grid.radius          100             # Grid radius in millimeters
leveling-strategy.delta-grid.size            5              # Grid size, must be an odd number
leveling-strategy.delta-grid.do_home         true            # Whether to home before calibration
leveling-strategy.delta-grid.save            false            # Whether to automatically save the grid
leveling-strategy.delta-grid.initial_height  10              # Height at which to start probling

## Panel
# See http://smoothieware.org/panel
# Please find your panel on the wiki and copy/paste the right configuration here
#panel.enable                                 true              # Set to true to enable the panel code
panel.enable                                 false              # Set to true to enable the panel code

# Example for reprap discount GLCD
# on glcd EXP1 is to left and EXP2 is to right, pin 1 is bottom left, pin 2 is top left etc.
# +5v is EXP1 pin 10, Gnd is EXP1 pin 9
panel.lcd                                   reprap_discount_glcd     #
panel.spi_channel                           0                 # SPI channel to use  ; GLCD EXP1 Pins 3,5 (MOSI, SCLK)
panel.spi_cs_pin                            0.16              # SPI chip select     ; GLCD EXP1 Pin 4
panel.encoder_a_pin                         3.25!^            # Encoder pin         ; GLCD EXP2 Pin 3
panel.encoder_b_pin                         3.26!^            # Encoder pin         ; GLCD EXP2 Pin 5
panel.click_button_pin                      0.28!^            # Click button        ; GLCD EXP1 Pin 2
panel.buzz_pin                              1.30              # Pin for buzzer      ; GLCD EXP1 Pin 1
#panel.back_button_pin                      0.28!^            # Back button         ; GLCD EXP2 Pin 8
panel.external_sd                           true              # set to true if there is an extrernal sdcard on the panel
panel.external_sd.spi_channel               0                 # set spi channel the sdcard is on
panel.external_sd.spi_cs_pin                1.23              # set spi chip select for the sdcard (or any spare pin)
panel.external_sd.sdcd_pin                  1.31!^            # sd detect signal (set to nc if no sdcard detect) (or any spare pin)
panel.menu_offset                           1                 # Some panels will need 1 here
panel.alpha_jog_feedrate                    6000              # X jogging feedrate in mm/min
panel.beta_jog_feedrate                     6000              # Y jogging feedrate in mm/min
panel.gamma_jog_feedrate                    6000              # Z jogging feedrate in mm/min
panel.hotend_temperature                    185               # Temp to set hotend when preheat is selected
panel.bed_temperature                       60                # Temp to set bed when preheat is selected

panel.menu_offset                            0                 # Some panels will need 1 here

panel.alpha_jog_feedrate                     6000              # X jogging feedrate in mm/min
panel.beta_jog_feedrate                      6000              # Y jogging feedrate in mm/min
panel.gamma_jog_feedrate                     6000              # Z jogging feedrate in mm/min

panel.hotend_temperature                     185               # Temp to set hotend when preheat is selected
panel.bed_temperature                        60                # Temp to set bed when preheat is selected

## Custom menus : Example of a custom menu entry, which will show up in the Custom entry.
# NOTE _ gets converted to space in the menu and commands, | is used to separate multiple commands
custom_menu.power_on.enable                true              #
custom_menu.power_on.name                  Power_on          #
custom_menu.power_on.command               M80               #

custom_menu.power_off.enable               true              #
custom_menu.power_off.name                 Power_off         #
custom_menu.power_off.command              M81               #


## Network settings
# See http://smoothieware.org/network
network.enable                               false            # Enable the ethernet network services
network.webserver.enable                     false            # Enable the webserver
network.telnet.enable                        false            # Enable the telnet server
#network.ip_address                           auto             # Use dhcp to get ip address
# Uncomment the 3 below to manually setup ip address
#network.ip_address                           192.168.3.222   # The IP address
#network.ip_mask                              255.255.255.0   # The ip mask
#network.ip_gateway                           192.168.3.1     # The gateway address
#network.mac_override                         xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx  # Override the mac address, only do this if you have a conflict

## System configuration
# Serial communications configuration ( baud rate defaults to 9600 if undefined )
# For communication over the UART port, *not* the USB/Serial port
uart0.baud_rate                              115200           # Baud rate for the default hardware ( UART ) serial port

second_usb_serial_enable                     false            # This enables a second USB serial port
#leds_disable                                true             # Disable using leds after config loaded
#play_led_disable                            true             # Disable the play led

# Kill button maybe assigned to a different pin, set to the onboard pin by default
# See http://smoothieware.org/killbutton
#kill_button_enable                           true             # Set to true to enable a kill button
#kill_button_pin                              2.12             # Kill button pin. default is same as pause button 2.12 (2.11 is another good choice)

#msd_disable                                 false            # Disable the MSD (USB SDCARD), see http://smoothieware.org/troubleshooting#disable-msd
#dfu_enable                                  false            # For linux developers, set to true to enable DFU

# Only needed on a smoothieboard
# See http://smoothieware.org/currentcontrol
#currentcontrol_module_enable                 true             # Control stepper motor current via the configuration file

Just in case you don’t know about it I’ll link this here : http://smoothieware.org/troubleshooting#what-is-wrong-with-mks

About your problem, I’ve not seen this before. I’d expect you have some parameter that’s not set right, I’d think arm length, can you try both increasing and reducing it by a lot and see if one of those improves and/or worsens the situation ?

Also, for delta-related stuff that might not be smoothie-specific, look up the deltabot google group, there are some very competent people there that might have an idea/have seen this before.

What is Smothieware’s view on the azteeg boards?(http://www.panucatt.com/azteeg_X5_GT_reprap_3d_printer_controller_p/ax5gt.htm)
None of the stock SmoothieBoards fit my use case.

I will try massively screwing with my arm length/radius to see if I can make the problem better/worse.

Thanks for the note on the google group. I will ask them.