Low amount of money :/

Low amount of money :confused: … which should I buy?

From all of the reviews on YT, I expected the anycubic printer to win! Looks like I was wrong… thank for all the votes and help!

As a first printer, deltas are a bit more to learn and level.

Do NOT get a Delta as your first printer, ESPECIALLY if it’s a kit.

I agree with above.
The Anycubic components are good, but the setup instructions are absolutely hopeless, and there’s way more fiddling than with a cartesian rig.

If you do get an Anycubic, I recommend using silicone tape or a bit of hitemp silicone adhesive to hold the thermister in place, or you may start to get “thermal runaway” errors.

No problem. Im new to 3d printing so everything is helpful! ;D
BTW thank you, Stephen L, But looks like Im not gonna buy the anycubic after all.

I got myself a Geeetech pro C and I’m quite happy with it. You’ll have to be a bit careful with the acrylic frame however, because some people manage to break theirs by tightening the screws too much.
The Tevo tarantula also gets good reviews, but I don’t have any experience with it.
From what I heard deltas aren’t good as first printers indeed, but I’d love to build one one day.

I’d say go for a direct drive extruder for your first printer. Less issues with retraction and you can print flexible filament, which is hard or impossible with most Bowden extruders.

The Prusa i3 and its clones are the models all printers are compared to. The i3 is well documented, and a bullet proof design. I have one, and it does everything I need. For a first printer I would recommend this simply because its the most popular model should you run into any problems. Its also much easier to get already printed and manufactured parts for the i3 from multiple sources.

edit: The Geetech i3 printer has a buy option for automatic bed levelling.

I’ll just throw my two cents into the discussion:

  • Geeetech prusa: Doesn’t seem to be a bad kit, if you’re willing to assemble everything from the ground up, and have a strong set of nerves on you (for me personally, this one goes too much into the direction of the ANet A8 for comfort, and that one took me six months from “completed build” to “first working print”, because of the worst possible way of calibrating the nozzle height by moving the Z limit switch - either 1 mm above the bed or banging the nozzle so hard into the bed that the bed springs get pressed down by 3 mm… I strongly hope this one has some better detail solutions in a few places…) But when you have it working, it should be great for the price…

  • Anycubic Kossel: another great printer for the price, if you’re willing to go up from the ‘nuts and bolts’ level, and apparently you can crank up the print speed to ridiculous levels and still get quite decent prints, if some YT videos can be believed :wink:, such as e. g. https://www.youtu.be/s_77fou06Rk , but, as the others above me already have noted, the setup process must have been invented in one of the deeper levels of hell :grin: - some examples I’ve only heard of:

  • measuring the length of the delta rods (the ones going from the three sliders to the print head), and then putting this value (hopefully they’re all six really the same length :wink:) into the firmware’s SOURCE CODE (!), and compiling the firmware from scratch with Arduino - okay, it’s not that hard, in principle, just connect by USB, click “compile and upload” and you’re done, but for an absolute beginner, this could sound just a tad overwhelming… Why not just put a working version on there during the assembly process? The geometry shouldn’t change for a given model, after all, and the zero height for the bed level could be set somewhere inside the menu - you DO have a nice knob to turn on that printer, after all…

  • the limit switches for the three sliders are mounted either on three moveable elements at the top of the smooth rods, or there’s a screw on the sliders themselves that depresses the switches. Now, if you don’t get the three sides to just about perfectly the same height, you end up with distorted prints - what should be a straight upright line in your printed object, ends up bending away from the upright, as if the wind blew against your object while printing. Why they didn’t just mount the limit switches to the top triangle of the frame, and put a fixed length element onto the sliders, pressing the limit switches, I’ll never understand…
    TL; DR: good for the price, but just maybe not exactly for your first printer :wink:

  • Tevo Tornado: easiest to assemble - just a few big elements, the motors, and some screws and mounting brackets. So, if you point the connectors on the Z motors in the right direction before screwing them on (not pointing towards the center, that makes the connectors rub against the belts, but I think to the front - but I could be wrong there…), plug in your cables right (no problem here - every plug only fits in exactly one place…) and tighten up all pre-assembled screws when you’re done, this one’s the easiest to get up and running.
    So, if this one fits into your budget, it’s maybe your best bet…

And, I’m sorry if I’m getting a bit too lengthy here, but I’m a firm believer in informed decisions :grinning:

I’ll just throw out that (below) was my first 3D printer, at U$D 220 (actually I got it for $199 on sale), fully assembled.

It has a relatively small print size (120mm x 3), and doesn’t have automatic bed leveling; but has a heated bed it’s really easy to use right out of the box. I still do most of my stuff on it.

@Ingo_Ulrich Well, GeeeTech posted some videos online, which clearly demonstrate how to assemble the printer. That’s a necessity, because their manual just doesn’t cut it :stuck_out_tongue:

This was my first and so far only 3D printer. Assembly took me about 8 hours, while watching the videos for each step. The first prints were OK-ish, but I had to tune it a bit and print a few pieces to improve the print quality.
Basically, I just had to increase the stepper motor current (thanks, YouTube) and print 2 small parts to mitigate the Z wobble. After a few days I got the printer working quite nicely.

Of course, with a 3D printer, you keep finding things to tinker with, so I upgraded it with a 3DTouch bed leveling sensor (really nice, once you have a few weeks of experience with 3D printers, so you understand what the settings in the firmware source code mean), flashed it with the latest Marlin, printed some other upgrades and I’m now building an enclosure.

From what I read about the Anet A8, the GeeeTech is improved on quite a few points. These come to mind:

  • the frame is made of pieces at a straight angle, which gives it more rigidity than the A8
  • the GT2560 board looks well built, the connectors look better than the pictures of A8s I saw
  • belt tensioners for X and Y belts
  • heat bed wires seem thicker than the ones on the A8

Biggest flaws:

  • threaded rods aren’t very straight, you might want to replace those with lead screws.
  • power supply: it works, and 20A is enough, but just barely when heating both extruders and the bed. An old PC PSU solves that.
  • supplied firmware is rather old, but that’s relatively easy to fix.

My point is, if you’re a little bit handy, there’s not much to be afraid of with a kit like this.

A8 all the way, Anet, best price, easy to work on, lots of support out there

Cr10 has been getting good reviews.
Personally, I prefer a scratch built I3 with 3d printed parts

uses vslot, delrin wheels, all aluminum plate frame, designed to be modified. Kit starts at $324 with LCD screen. G+ community is very active!

@Reach_3D_Printers_Na “What makes our printer unique, is the Cantilever design and Delrin V wheel system.” - There is nothing unique about that design.

It was unique in 2014 when I designed it. Only the bukito bot was similar, but they used higher end control boards, and charge over $700 for their printer.

@Reach_3D_Printers_Na And they now charge less than $100 for the Tronxy X1

I got a kossel recently. First printer. No problems. Great results.

@Testof_Newtablet Well, looks like Tronxy is about $150 on average, sometimes less on sale, and really a pretty good buy, but looking at the details, there are definitely issues with Tronxy.
The plates are acrylic or thin sheet metal and can flex, the SD card is only accessible underneath, the LCD interface is a grueling push button design, the power-lcd enclosure requires more desktop space, build size is 150^3, vs Reach is 200^3, no heated bed upgrade on Tronxy, the extruder is weak, and maxes at 60mm/s, my geared extruder will run over 200mm/s.
Bottom line, your right, the Tronxy is cheaper in price and design. Each printer has their strengths and weaknesses. I don’t know how well they support their customers, but I can say I spend the time to help anyone who buys my printer, which is of considerable value when learning 3d printing.
If the poll was limited to the 3 original options, I would vote the i3. If I were choosing between the i3 and the Reach, well Im a little bias :slight_smile:
The modifications of the Reach are extensive. I demo how to run a laser cutter and light cnc mill with my printer… because why not?

makers muse review:

Maybe a monoprice