I found some 3d printers wich i think arent too bad but cheap in relation to other printers. Wich printer would you buy and why ? (please rank them because i dont know all prices of the printers ) Thanks for help.
List:
Ender 3d desktop printer
Vertex nano k8600
Anycubic i3
Monoprice select mini
Cetus 3d
Renkforce rf 100
Bcn3d sigmax 3d printer
Monoprice maker select plus
If you’re going to make a post like this, maybe include some links at least. I’m not familiar with any of those off the top of my head and I’d have to find all of them and assume they are the right ones.
if you wanna know your 3d printer my recomendation goes to a diy kit - i bought the - geeetech i3 pro b diy kit - just finalizing the upgrades steel core belts - traco power supply - octo touch if - and i still got 2 ims motion drive 17 steppers with 51k stepps (yeah 51000 stepps max) - uv protected polycarbonat sheets on the case from a long term cell analyzer) - upgrades worth 1000-1500 bucks actually paid 100-150 bucks - hail online fleamarkets 
I bought the Geeetech i3 pro C. Affordable and acceptable print quality when assembled properly (not very hard to do). One quick print later to fix the Z wobble, print quality is quite good.
So far I only printed PLA, PETG, PLA wood and PLA flex. That all worked out pretty well.
Of course you’ll probably want to upgrade it a bit more after that, but that’s part of the fun (3D touch sensor is a nice addition).
I still need to order some plexiglass for my Ikea Lack tower, and upgrade the PSU to an ATX PSU and add some lighting and then I’ll be all set… For a while at least.
@Bart_Crijns yeah but while assembling it iregreted that i didnt bought the one with alu frame - acryl breaks to easy - just one end stop 
@Bart_Crijns yeah but while assembling it i regreted that i didnt bought the one with the alu frame - acryl breaks to easy - just one end stop
https://www.cetus3d.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53
for 300€
Ender 3d desktop printer
Costs 180$
Monoprice select mini 220$
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=21711
Renkforce rf100 300€
Bcn3d sigmax 3d printer 4470€ (too expansive)
Monoprice maker select plus 400$
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15711
Besides listing the printers describe what you’re going to use it for, what your skill level is, do you want it to just work or are you willing to tinker? What’s your frustration tolerance when parts break or jam? Do you want a warranty, or like the direct from China machines will you roll the dice and hope a potentially no warranty machine is worth the price. Hard to offer a ranking when nobody knows what your criteria are.
You get what you pay for isn’t an absolute law, but it is a guideline. Sweetness of low price, bitterness of poor quality…
I use it to print pranctical things (like a drone) (high resolution). I had the renkforce rf 100 one monzh then it broke. I thinker the models myself. If parts boke i would try to replace http://them.yes a warranty would be nice but not nececeraly price for printer max 400-500€
I’ve been tempted by these budget printers, but have realized I’d be buying a project, not a tool. I like tinkering, but I’m not prepared to spend more time tinkering with the machine than using it.
3Dhubs (over a million parts printed across all printers) rates the Prusa printers as some of the best consumer grade printers out there. And they are reasonably affordable.
In fact, if @Brook_Drumm over at Printrbot didn’t have such awesome customer service backing his darn good affordable printers I’d be tempted to get a Prusa.
I’m currently assembling a Smalls kit ($300US). Initial impressions are: Solid little machine! Massive improvements over their Simple Maker’s Kit - and that was a decent printer!
I’ve had a V1 Printrbot Plus since their original Kickstarter and am very happy with it. Mine’s heavily modified since I like tinkering with it about as much as making parts. Have dealt with their customer service and @Brook_Drumm several times, always a good experience. However I don’t have one if the current non-plywood versions, the original is too good to replace.
The thousand dollar rule applies. Any non-trivial CNC device that you actually use, like any major power tool, will cost you at least a thousand bucks when you add in tooling, supplies, repairs, upgrades, etc. over it’s lifetime. Still cheaper than snowmobiling
@Alex_Wiebe well the upgrades on mine where the first things after a year of hustle free printing with it after building it if you take care of it - fe. loosening the belts when you dont use it for some time keep everything greased up and so on its more a tool for me than id tinker on it the only things i added after building it where the bearings for the z axis, the mounts on the heatbed for easy leveling and the 2 vents for part cooling - took about an hr to ad those - yeah for emergency i printed some spare parts i didnt need for now i think taking the time to do it properly is the key - or would you say the orig prusa i3 kit is also more for tinkering - i also watched months before i bought it youtube vids and read reviews - now im saving for the orig with the multicolor upgrade cant wait too order it
and simpify3d is a blessing and totaly worth the money dmn its a lifetime license increased print quality significantly and reduced some of the hustles with printing
and im well equiped when the orig arrives and with the money saved i bought a dremel tool (proxxon) and s3d
btw did you had a look @ https://www.geeetech.com/geeetech-e180-mini-3d-printer-p-1017.html?zenid=8912nfes5965kikk4stnbm3j74
no im not a geeetech fanboy but they also got good support and warranty from what i read - i didnt need it for now
If I had to do it all over again, I’d do what I did… again. An inexpensive assemble-it-yourself kit for about $300 all in. I practiced printing by creating the common and basic upgrades… learned some things along the way… still learning. (still can’t get that blue tape to stick! 
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A lot will depend on what you’ll be doing with it. If you just want to putz around like me and occasionally make custom things (clips for my LED lights for example) then you can start cheap and upgrade. If you’re going to print 8 hours a day, seven days a week and possibly sell or distribute your prints, you’ll probably want to go high-end.
Similar to the tool analogy given above, if you’re just a regular-Joe, you can start with a handsaw and hammer and slowly buy more and better tools as you go along. If you plan on starting a carpentry business, a table saw is entry level.
I recommend a Prusa to be honest i have the Prusa i3 MK2S thou they just released the MK3 recently
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Look into the reach3d platform. It is a crowdfunded Kickstarter campaign aiming at a multipurpose DIY kit. You can not only 3D-print with it but also set it up to: Laser engrave, Laser cut, Plot and CNC-mill with it. I love it. The community is still small, but very innovative and responsive to mods and questions:
http://www.reach3dprinters.com/
