I am an admin on a small FB group for owners of a certain

(Don Kleinschnitz Jr.) #1

I am an admin on a small FB group for owners of a certain type of rare wood lathe. We moved from Yahoo when that platform got ugly to use and maintain. We now have a small and focused group without all the glitz of the larger woodworking FB groups.

It dawned on me, why don’t we do the same with this G+ group.

I don’t know what it is specifically but I enjoy working with this group more than the current Laser engraving groups on FB. I guess this group and G+ in general seems to be more Maker/engineering oriented and there is not as much “social overhead” on here. Maybe its just that those groups are so large and diverse I find myself wading through a lot of garbage to get to interesting things. Maybe its just me …

What do you think?

(Jim Hatch) #2

Definitely agree with regards to the FB laser groups. This group is mostly about makers & tinkerers than FB seems to gravitate to.

(James Rivera) #3

I’m already on FB so most of the complaints about FB as a bad platform to join are irrelevant for me. I’d happily join an FB group with this crowd.

(Stephane BUISSON) #4

I never and still not trust FB (and all others software from FB), a no go for me. this view is shared by many other old “Maker” with a bit of knowledge background. don’t worry we will find a solution for the community.

(0.45 NACL) #5

FB is not a place for me.

(Jim Fong) #6

I’m already subscribed to several FB laser/cnc groups so it wouldn’t bother me to much. You are right about FB. I like the people here since it is more technical. Wherever this group ends up, I hope it lives on with many of the same users.

(Jamie Richards) #7

Don’t use any apps made for FB and you should be fine. I’ve been there for years without issue.

(James Rivera) #8

@JamieR Bang on right. Some co-worker friends from Microsoft and I were considering developing an app for FB in its early days (about mid-2007). We discovered the app would have access to your list of friends (and IIRC, their friends!) and we realized this was just not something we were comfortable with and we abandoned the idea/platform. Some creepy shit, IMHO. Those early apps (Vampires/Werewolves) were little more than data harvesting s**t.

(Jamie Richards) #9

I’ve been warning friends and family about the apps for years, and of course some didn’t listen and next thing you know, I was getting spam emails using their name to make me open them. They just recently updated the security, but I still won’t install one because they can still have access to your email and list. Some of those apps used to access everything and people would still give them permissions and install knowing this fact.

(James Rivera) #10

@JamieR Yep. The metadata they exposed by default was insane. Like home phone numbers, addresses, and email addresses–of your friends. I think the defaults might be better now, but I haven’t looked into it. I simply do not install ANY apps on FB.

(Jamie Richards) #11

And now google had the same issue and kept quiet about it? They still got caught.

(0.45 NACL) #12

Old fashioned forums do not have any hidden info mining.

(Don Kleinschnitz Jr.) #13

Social platform discussions always raise a spectrum of concerns.

Every platform has its security vs usability trade-offs. More usability usually exposes more security issues, especially when you want to share a single copy of information.
There is nothing I share on this community that I am concerned about anyone on the planet getting access to.

I left forums some time ago and for me that technology, does not provide the desktop and mobile user experience I have come to expect including the built in sharing abilities.

I also have become used to much less administration overhead in fact that is a main reason why I moved to FB and G+ to start with.

Sorry, but I am not planning on going back to forums.

If we don’t find a better platform than FB when G+ dies I plan to start a FB group and see how it goes. It takes no effort on my part.

We had this exact problem with my wood turning group when Yahoo became ugly, with the same FB concerns. Now we are back to sharing and collaborating …

(Jamie Richards) #14

Yahoo definitely became ugly. I did notice they have an app for the forums now.

(0.45 NACL) #15

@donkjr My forum is Word Press based and very flexible for the new mobile user. What do you mean by “sharing” abilities?

(Jamie Richards) #16

I actually miss the old forums, (especially old style Yahoo) but admit I’m a Facebook addict. lol

(Rob Mac) #17

It’s bad enough being on G+ instead of a proper forum system, some rubbish on FaceBook would be a downgrade!!!

(James Rivera) #18

Wordpress is a great platform. But it would largely be a single interest per domain (e.g. http://quilting.com is only for those interested in quilting), whereas G+ and FB can have myriad interest groups that you can login to with a single account. Ease of use greases the gears. I created an account on http://mewe.com, but I haven’t actively used it yet. http://mewe.com

(James Rivera) #19

Note that I needed nothing but an email address to join it. I didn’t need to post any further information about myself.

(0.45 NACL) #20

@James_Rivera what other interests are there other than lasers?