Having Trouble with M4 G-Code

I’m successfully communicating with the Smoothieboard by sending G-codes over the USB port.
When I am using the M1 and M2 steppers I am using the following G-code:

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But when I try to use the M4 stepper I am getting no results with the following G-code:

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I noticed in documentation and forums that the M$ stepper seems to be referred to as either axis A or E0, so I also tried EO in G-code:

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As mentioned, the Smoothieboard communications have been working great for years as long as I send G-codes which reference the X and Y axis, which drive the M1 and M2 steppers respectfully.

But I am now trying to drive a combination of the M4 and M2 steppers, and I can’t seem to find out the correct way to format the G-codes, trying to reach the M4 via either A axis or E0 axis.

3D printing requires 3 axis( X, Y and Z ) plus a motor for the Extruder( E ).
So Motor 1(M1) is the X axis, M2=Y axis, M3=Z axis and M4 is the Extruder/E0

So maybe something like:
G0X20Y40Z0.1E2.5

SOmetimes the 4th motor is axis A and you’d see:
G0X20Y40Z0.1A2.5

@Cary please provide your smoothie configuration.

Paste it in between two lines that are just three single backticks in a row, like this:

```
your config goes here
```

Thanks Michael. Here is my config file:

# NOTE Lines must not exceed 132 characters
# Robot module configurations : general handling of movement G-codes and slicing into moves
default_feed_rate                            4000             # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for G1/G2/G3 moves
default_seek_rate                            4000             # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for G0 moves
mm_per_arc_segment                           0.5              # Arcs are cut into segments ( lines ), this is the length for
                                                              # these segments.  Smaller values mean more resolution,
                                                              # higher values mean faster computation
mm_per_line_segment                          0                # Lines can be cut into segments ( not usefull with cartesian
                                                              # coordinates robots ).

# Arm solution configuration : Cartesian robot. Translates mm positions into stepper positions
alpha_steps_per_mm                           500.0000               # Steps per mm for alpha stepper
beta_steps_per_mm                            500.0000               # Steps per mm for beta stepper
gamma_steps_per_mm                           500.0000             # Steps per mm for gamma stepper
delta_steps_per_mm                           500.0000             # Steps per mm for gamma stepper

# Planner module configuration : Look-ahead and acceleration configuration
planner_queue_size                           32               # DO NOT CHANGE THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING
acceleration                                 500            # Acceleration in mm/second/second.
z_acceleration                               3000             # Acceleration for Z only moves in mm/s^2, 0 uses acceleration which is the default. DO NOT SET ON A DELTA
acceleration_ticks_per_second                1000             # Number of times per second the speed is updated
junction_deviation                           0.05             # Similar to the old "max_jerk", in millimeters,
                                                              # see https://github.com/grbl/grbl/blob/master/planner.c
                                                              # and https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Configuring-Grbl-v0.8
                                                              # Lower values mean being more careful, higher values means being
                                                              # faster and have more jerk
#z_junction_deviation                        0.0              # for Z only moves, -1 uses junction_deviation, zero disables junction_deviation on z moves DO NOT SET ON A DELTA
#minimum_planner_speed                       0.0              # sets the minimum planner speed in mm/sec

# Stepper module configuration
microseconds_per_step_pulse                  1                # Duration of step pulses to stepper drivers, in microseconds
base_stepping_frequency                      180000           # Base frequency for stepping, higher gives smoother movement

# Cartesian axis speed limits
x_axis_max_speed                             30000            # mm/min
y_axis_max_speed                             30000            # mm/min
z_axis_max_speed                             30000            # mm/min
a_axis_max_speed                             30000            # mm/min

# Stepper module pins ( ports, and pin numbers, appending "!" to the number will invert a pin )
alpha_step_pin                               2.0              # Pin for alpha stepper step signal
alpha_dir_pin                                0.5              # Pin for alpha stepper direction
alpha_en_pin                                 0.4              # Pin for alpha enable pin
alpha_current                                1.5              # X stepper motor current
alpha_max_rate                               30000.0          # mm/min

beta_step_pin                                2.1              # Pin for beta stepper step signal
beta_dir_pin                                 0.11             # Pin for beta stepper direction
beta_en_pin                                  0.10             # Pin for beta enable
beta_current                                 1.5              # Y stepper motor current
beta_max_rate                                30000.0          # mm/min

gamma_step_pin                               2.2              # Pin for gamma stepper step signal
gamma_dir_pin                                0.20             # Pin for gamma stepper direction
gamma_en_pin                                 0.19             # Pin for gamma enable
gamma_current                                1.5              # Z stepper motor current
gamma_max_rate                               30000.0          # mm/min

delta_step_pin                               2.3              # Pin for delta stepper step signal
delta_dir_pin                                0.22             # Pin for delta stepper direction
delta_en_pin                                 0.21             # Pin for delta enable
delta_current                                1.5              # A stepper motor current
delta_max_rate                               30000.0          # mm/min

# Serial communications configuration ( baud rate default to 9600 if undefined )
uart0.baud_rate                              115200           # Baud rate for the default hardware serial port
second_usb_serial_enable                     false            # This enables a second usb serial port (to have both pronterface
                                                              # and a terminal connected)
#leds_disable                                true             # disable using leds after config loaded
#play_led_disable                            true             # disable the play led
pause_button_enable                          true             # Pause button enable
#pause_button_pin                            2.12             # pause button pin. default is P2.12
#kill_button_enable                           false            # set to true to enable a kill button
#kill_button_pin                              2.12             # kill button pin. default is same as pause button 2.12 (2.11 is another good choice)
#msd_disable                                 false            # disable the MSD (USB SDCARD) when set to true (needs special binary)
#dfu_enable                                  false            # for linux developers, set to true to enable DFU

# Extruder module configuration
#extruder.hotend.enable                          true             # Whether to activate the extruder module at all. All configuration is ignored if false
#extruder.hotend.steps_per_mm                    140              # Steps per mm for extruder stepper
#extruder.hotend.default_feed_rate               600              # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for moves where only the extruder moves
#extruder.hotend.acceleration                    500              # Acceleration for the stepper motor, as of 0.6, arbitrary ratio
#extruder.hotend.max_speed                       50               # mm/s

#extruder.hotend.step_pin                        2.3              # Pin for extruder step signal
#extruder.hotend.dir_pin                         0.22             # Pin for extruder dir signal
#extruder.hotend.en_pin                          0.21             # Pin for extruder enable signal

# extruder offset
#extruder.hotend.x_offset                        0                # x offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend.y_offset                        0                # y offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend.z_offset                        0                # z offset from origin in mm

# firmware retract settings when using G10/G11, these are the defaults if not defined, must be defined for each extruder if not using the defaults
#extruder.hotend.retract_length                  3               # retract length in mm
#extruder.hotend.retract_feedrate                45              # retract feedrate in mm/sec
#extruder.hotend.retract_recover_length          0               # additional length for recover
#extruder.hotend.retract_recover_feedrate        8               # recover feedrate in mm/sec (should be less than retract feedrate)
#extruder.hotend.retract_zlift_length            0               # zlift on retract in mm, 0 disables
#extruder.hotend.retract_zlift_feedrate          6000            # zlift feedrate in mm/min (Note mm/min NOT mm/sec)

delta_current                                1.5              # First extruder stepper motor current

# Second extruder module configuration
#extruder.hotend2.enable                          true             # Whether to activate the extruder module at all. All configuration is ignored if false
#extruder.hotend2.steps_per_mm                    140              # Steps per mm for extruder stepper
#extruder.hotend2.default_feed_rate               600              # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for moves where only the extruder moves
#extruder.hotend2.acceleration                    500              # Acceleration for the stepper motor, as of 0.6, arbitrary ratio
#extruder.hotend2.max_speed                       50               # mm/s

#extruder.hotend2.step_pin                        2.8              # Pin for extruder step signal
#extruder.hotend2.dir_pin                         2.13             # Pin for extruder dir signal
#extruder.hotend2.en_pin                          4.29             # Pin for extruder enable signal

#extruder.hotend2.x_offset                        0                # x offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend2.y_offset                        25.0             # y offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend2.z_offset                        0                # z offset from origin in mm
#epsilon_current                              1.5              # Second extruder stepper motor current


# Laser module configuration
laser_module_enable                          false            # Whether to activate the laser module at all. All configuration is
                                                              # ignored if false.
#laser_module_pin                             2.5             # this pin will be PWMed to control the laser. Only P2.0 - P2.5, P1.18, P1.20, P1.21, P1.23, P1.24, P1.26, P3.25, P3.26
                                                              # can be used since laser requires hardware PWM
#laser_module_max_power                       0.8             # this is the maximum duty cycle that will be applied to the laser
#laser_module_tickle_power                    0.0             # this duty cycle will be used for travel moves to keep the laser
                                                              # active without actually burning
#laser_module_pwm_period                      20              # this sets the pwm frequency as the period in microseconds

# Hotend temperature control configuration
#temperature_control.hotend.enable            true             # Whether to activate this ( "hotend" ) module at all.
                                                              # All configuration is ignored if false.
#temperature_control.hotend.thermistor_pin    0.23             # Pin for the thermistor to read
#temperature_control.hotend.heater_pin        2.7              # Pin that controls the heater, set to nc if a readonly thermistor is being defined
#temperature_control.hotend.thermistor        EPCOS100K        # see http://smoothieware.org/temperaturecontrol#toc5
#temperature_control.hotend.beta             4066             # or set the beta value
#temperature_control.hotend.set_m_code        104              #
#temperature_control.hotend.set_and_wait_m_code 109            #
#temperature_control.hotend.designator        T                #

#temperature_control.hotend.p_factor         13.7             # permanently set the PID values after an auto pid
#temperature_control.hotend.i_factor         0.097            #
#temperature_control.hotend.d_factor         24               #

#temperature_control.hotend.max_pwm          64               # max pwm, 64 is a good value if driving a 12v resistor with 24v.

# Hotend2 temperature control configuration
#temperature_control.hotend2.enable            true             # Whether to activate this ( "hotend" ) module at all.
                                                              # All configuration is ignored if false.

#temperature_control.hotend2.thermistor_pin    0.25             # Pin for the thermistor to read
#temperature_control.hotend2.heater_pin        1.23             # Pin that controls the heater
#temperature_control.hotend2.thermistor        EPCOS100K        # see http://smoothieware.org/temperaturecontrol#toc5
##temperature_control.hotend2.beta             4066             # or set the beta value
#temperature_control.hotend2.set_m_code        884              #
#temperature_control.hotend2.set_and_wait_m_code 889            #
#temperature_control.hotend2.designator        T1               #

#temperature_control.hotend2.p_factor          13.7           # permanently set the PID values after an auto pid
#temperature_control.hotend2.i_factor          0.097          #
#temperature_control.hotend2.d_factor          24             #

#temperature_control.hotend2.max_pwm          64               # max pwm, 64 is a good value if driving a 12v resistor with 24v.

#temperature_control.bed.enable               true             #
#temperature_control.bed.thermistor_pin       0.24             #
#temperature_control.bed.heater_pin           2.5              #
#temperature_control.bed.thermistor           Honeywell100K    # see http://smoothieware.org/temperaturecontrol#toc5
#temperature_control.bed.beta                3974             # or set the beta value

#temperature_control.bed.set_m_code           140              #
#temperature_control.bed.set_and_wait_m_code  190              #
#temperature_control.bed.designator           B                #

#temperature_control.bed.bang_bang            false           # set to true to use bang bang control rather than PID
#temperature_control.bed.hysteresis           2.0             # set to the temperature in degrees C to use as hysteresis
                                                              # when using bang bang

# Switch module for fan control
#switch.fan.enable                            true             #
#switch.fan.input_on_command                  M106             #
#switch.fan.input_off_command                 M107             #
#switch.fan.output_pin                        2.6              #
#switch.fan.output_type                       digital              # pwm output settable with S parameter in the input_on_comand
#switch.fan.max_pwm                           255              # set max pwm for the pin default is 255

# Switch module for spindle enable/disable
switch.misc.enable                           true             #
switch.misc.input_on_command                 M42              #
switch.misc.input_off_command                M43              #
switch.misc.output_pin                       1.30              #
switch.misc.output_type                      digital          # just an on or off pin

# Switch module for controller play/pause status light enable/disable
switch.playled.enable                        true             #
switch.playled.input_on_command              M106            #
switch.playled.input_off_command             M107            #
switch.playled.output_pin                    2.7              #
switch.playled.output_type                   digital          # just an on or off pin
#switch.playled.startup_state 		     false	      #

# Switch module for spindle control
switch.spindle.enable                        true             #
switch.spindle.input_on_command              M44              #
switch.spindle.input_off_command             M45              #
switch.spindle.output_pin                    1.23             #
switch.spindle.output_type                   pwm              # pwm output settable with S parameter in the input_on_comand
switch.spindle.max_pwm                       255              # set max pwm for the pin default is 255

# automatically toggle a switch at a specified temperature. Different ones of these may be defined to monitor different temperatures and switch different swithxes
# useful to turn on a fan or water pump to cool the hotend
#temperatureswitch.hotend.enable	            true             #
#temperatureswitch.hotend.designator          T                # first character of the temperature control designator to use as the temperature sensor to monitor
#temperatureswitch.hotend.switch              misc             # select which switch to use, matches the name of the defined switch
#temperatureswitch.hotend.threshold_temp      60.0             # temperature to turn on (if rising) or off the switch
#temperatureswitch.hotend.heatup_poll         15               # poll heatup at 15 sec intervals
#temperatureswitch.hotend.cooldown_poll       60               # poll cooldown at 60 sec intervals

# Switch module for spindle control
#switch.spindle.enable                        false            #

# Endstops
endstops_enable                              true             # the endstop module is enabled by default and can be disabled here
#corexy_homing                               false            # set to true if homing on a hbit or corexy
alpha_min_endstop                            1.24^            # add a ! to invert if endstop is NO connected to ground
alpha_max_endstop                            1.25^            # NOTE set to nc if this is not installed
alpha_homing_direction                       home_to_min      # or set to home_to_max and set alpha_max
alpha_min                                    0                # this gets loaded after homing when home_to_min is set
alpha_max                                    200              # this gets loaded after homing when home_to_max is set
beta_min_endstop                             1.26^            #
beta_max_endstop                             1.27^            #
beta_homing_direction                        home_to_min      #
beta_min                                     0                #
beta_max                                     200              #
gamma_min_endstop                            1.28!^            #
#gamma_max_endstop                            1.29^            #
gamma_homing_direction                       home_to_min      #
gamma_min                                    0                #
gamma_max                                    200              #

# optional order in which axis will home, default is they all home at the same time,
# if this is set it will force each axis to home one at a time in the specified order
#homing_order                                 XYZ              # x axis followed by y then z last

# optional enable limit switches, actions will stop if any enabled limit switch is triggered
#alpha_limit_enable                          false            # set to true to enable X min and max limit switches
#beta_limit_enable                           false            # set to true to enable Y min and max limit switches
#gamma_limit_enable                          false            # set to true to enable Z min and max limit switches

alpha_fast_homing_rate_mm_s                  50               # feedrates in mm/second
beta_fast_homing_rate_mm_s                   50               # "
gamma_fast_homing_rate_mm_s                  4                # "
alpha_slow_homing_rate_mm_s                  25               # "
beta_slow_homing_rate_mm_s                   25               # "
gamma_slow_homing_rate_mm_s                  2                # "

alpha_homing_retract_mm                      5                # distance in mm
beta_homing_retract_mm                       5                # "
gamma_homing_retract_mm                      1                # "

#endstop_debounce_count                       100              # uncomment if you get noise on your endstops, default is 100

# optional Z probe
zprobe.enable                                true           # set to true to enable a zprobe
zprobe.probe_pin                             1.29^          # pin probe is attached to if NC remove the !
zprobe.slow_feedrate                         5               # mm/sec probe feed rate
#zprobe.debounce_count                       100             # set if noisy
zprobe.fast_feedrate                         100             # move feedrate mm/sec
zprobe.probe_height                          5               # how much above bed to start probe
gamma_max_endstop                           nc              # normally 1.28. Change to nc to prevent conflict,

# associated with zprobe the leveling strategy to use
#leveling-strategy.three-point-leveling.enable         true        # a leveling strategy that probes three points to define a plane and keeps the Z parallel to that plane
#leveling-strategy.three-point-leveling.point1         100.0,0.0   # the first probe point (x,y) optional may be defined with M557
#leveling-strategy.three-point-leveling.point2         200.0,200.0 # the second probe point (x,y)
#leveling-strategy.three-point-leveling.point3         0.0,200.0   # the third probe point (x,y)
#leveling-strategy.three-point-leveling.home_first     true        # home the XY axis before probing
#leveling-strategy.three-point-leveling.tolerance      0.03        # the probe tolerance in mm, anything less that this will be ignored, default is 0.03mm
#leveling-strategy.three-point-leveling.probe_offsets  0,0,0       # the probe offsets from nozzle, must be x,y,z, default is no offset
#leveling-strategy.three-point-leveling.save_plane     false       # set to true to allow the bed plane to be saved with M500 default is false

# Panel
panel.enable                                 false             # set to true to enable the panel code
panel.lcd                                    smoothiepanel     # set type of panel
panel.encoder_a_pin                          3.25!^            # encoder pin
panel.encoder_b_pin                          3.26!^            # encoder pin

# Example for reprap discount GLCD
# on glcd EXP1 is to left and EXP2 is to right, pin 1 is bottom left, pin 2 is top left etc.
# +5v is EXP1 pin 10, Gnd is EXP1 pin 9
#panel.lcd                                   reprap_discount_glcd     #
#panel.spi_channel                           0                 # spi channel to use  ; GLCD EXP1 Pins 3,5 (MOSI, SCLK)
#panel.spi_cs_pin                            0.16              # spi chip select     ; GLCD EXP1 Pin 4
#panel.encoder_a_pin                         3.25!^            # encoder pin         ; GLCD EXP2 Pin 3
#panel.encoder_b_pin                         3.26!^            # encoder pin         ; GLCD EXP2 Pin 5
#panel.click_button_pin                      1.30!^            # click button        ; GLCD EXP1 Pin 2
#panel.buzz_pin                              1.31              # pin for buzzer      ; GLCD EXP1 Pin 1
#panel.back_button_pin                       2.11!^            # back button         ; GLCD EXP2 Pin 8

# pins used with other panels
#panel.up_button_pin                         0.1!              # up button if used
#panel.down_button_pin                       0.0!              # down button if used
#panel.click_button_pin                      0.18!             # click button if used

panel.menu_offset                            0                 # some panels will need 1 here

panel.alpha_jog_feedrate                     6000              # x jogging feedrate in mm/min
panel.beta_jog_feedrate                      6000              # y jogging feedrate in mm/min
panel.gamma_jog_feedrate                     200               # z jogging feedrate in mm/min

panel.hotend_temperature                     185               # temp to set hotend when preheat is selected
panel.bed_temperature                        60                # temp to set bed when preheat is selected

# Example of a custom menu entry, which will show up in the Custom entry.
# NOTE _ gets converted to space in the menu and commands, | is used to separate multiple commands
custom_menu.power_on.enable                true              #
custom_menu.power_on.name                  Power_on          #
custom_menu.power_on.command               M80               #

custom_menu.power_off.enable               true              #
custom_menu.power_off.name                 Power_off         #
custom_menu.power_off.command              M81               #

# Only needed on a smoothieboard
currentcontrol_module_enable                 true             #

return_error_on_unhandled_gcode              false            #

# network settings
network.enable                               false            # enable the ethernet network services
network.webserver.enable                     true             # enable the webserver
network.telnet.enable                        true             # enable the telnet server
network.ip_address                           auto             # use dhcp to get ip address
# uncomment the 3 below to manually setup ip address
#network.ip_address                           192.168.3.222    # the IP address
#network.ip_mask                              255.255.255.0    # the ip mask
#network.ip_gateway                           192.168.3.1      # the gateway address
#network.mac_override                         xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx  # override the mac address, only do this if you have a conflict

You (reasonably) have extruder disabled, so I wouldn’t expect E0 “axis” to work.

Have you read the 6axis smoothie docs? That should really be named the “4 to 6 axis” docs. You can compile for 4, 5, or 6 axes, but you do have to recompile for more than 3 axes (not including extruder) as far as I know.

@Arthur_Wolf will know if I’m behind the times here!

Did you follow 6axis [smoothieware.org] ?

In particular are you using a 6axis-enabled firmware?

OK, I recompiled the firmware with the following commands:

make clean
make AXIS=4 PAXIS=4 CNC=1

and got a successful build of main.bin which I renamed firmware.bin and loaded onto the smoothie flash drive

Rebooted smoothieboard and verified that firmware.bin had been renamed firmware.cur

Started smoothie up and started streaming gcodes for X and Y axis, everything worked as it has for years now

Switched to streaming gcodes for A and Y axis, and the M4 stepper still does not work.
The Y axis still works as expected, but the M4 A axis does not.

that’s extremely odd. what happens if you (in config) swap the X and A step/dir pins?

To recap, if I send out G-codes like follows:

G0 X1234 Y4321

Both the X (M1) and Y(M2) move correctly

If I send the following G-code:

G0 A1234 Y4321

The Y(M2) still works, but A(M4) does not

Here’s my original X & A step/dir pins in my config file:


alpha_step_pin 2.0 # Pin for alpha stepper step signal

alpha_dir_pin 0.5 # Pin for alpha stepper direction

delta_step_pin 2.3 # Pin for delta stepper step signal

delta_dir_pin 0.22 # Pin for delta stepper direction

Per your suggestion, I have swapped them as follows:


alpha_step_pin 2.3 # Pin for alpha stepper step signal

alpha_dir_pin 0.22 # Pin for alpha stepper direction

delta_step_pin 2.0 # Pin for delta stepper step signal

delta_dir_pin 0.5 # Pin for delta stepper direction

After making those pin changes in config file, if I send out G-codes as follows:

G0 X1234 Y43210

The Y(M2) works, but neither X(M1) nor A(M4) work

If I then send the G-codes as follows:

G0 A1234 Y4321

The Y axis makes one short initial move (not the entire length of Y, only partial),

And neither the X(M1) nor A(M4) move, and the controller “locks up” and stops responding.

Try exactly this configuration, but massively (/100) reduce both acceleration and max speeds, and try again.

Ok, I made the following changes to the max rates in config file:

# Cartesian axis speed limits
x_axis_max_speed                             300            # mm/min down from 30000
y_axis_max_speed                             300            # mm/min down from 30000
z_axis_max_speed                             300            # mm/min down from 30000
a_axis_max_speed                             300            # mm/min down from 30000

alpha_step_pin                               2.3              # Pin for alpha stepper step signal
alpha_dir_pin                                0.22             # Pin for alpha stepper direction
alpha_en_pin                                 0.4              # Pin for alpha enable pin
alpha_current                                1.5              # X stepper motor current
alpha_max_rate                               300.0          # mm/min down from 30000

beta_step_pin                                2.1              # Pin for beta stepper step signal
beta_dir_pin                                 0.11             # Pin for beta stepper direction
beta_en_pin                                  0.10             # Pin for beta enable
beta_current                                 1.5              # Y stepper motor current
beta_max_rate                                300.0          # mm/min down from 30000

gamma_step_pin                               2.2              # Pin for gamma stepper step signal
gamma_dir_pin                                0.20             # Pin for gamma stepper direction
gamma_en_pin                                 0.19             # Pin for gamma enable
gamma_current                                1.5              # Z stepper motor current
gamma_max_rate                               300.0          # mm/min down from 30000

delta_step_pin                               2.0              # Pin for delta stepper step signal
delta_dir_pin                                0.5             # Pin for delta stepper direction
delta_en_pin                                 0.21             # Pin for delta enable
delta_current                                1.5              # A stepper motor current
delta_max_rate                               300.0          # mm/min down from 30000

…cutting the max rates /100 as you suggested

However, before swapping the step/dir pins, I successfully ran a job using G-codes such as:

G0 X1234 Y4321
etc

And the job ran fine, but extremely slow, as expected.

Then, sending out the same job with following G-codes:

G0 A1234 Y4321

I got the same problem I’ve been running into: the job hangs up on the very first G-code

I’m only a humble software coder, not an electronics guru, so forgive me if this is a dumb question:
Is it possible the M4 driver on the board is “dead”?

In the above post I forgot to clarify that I DID set the step/dir pins back.

1 - With step/dir pins as normal, sent standard XY G-codes at /100 speed
2- job ran successfully, bit extremely slow as expected
3 - Swapped X and A step/dir pins
4 - with swapped pins, sent AY G-codes at /100 speed
5 - job hung up on first move

What hung on the first move? Wfhich axis?

The idea of dividing speed, is often, users will use too high acceleration/speed setting and the reason they “think” their driver is dead, is it’s just stalling.
So we tell them to divide speed, and the dead driver now suddenly lives again.

But here I’m really not clear on what is supposed to work, not work, and what (if anything) has changed (ie worked and now dosen’t, or didn’t work and now does)

To answer your questions:

“What hung on the first move? Wfhich axis?”
The very first move is a XY move which goes from 0,0 “home resting” position to start of line to draw a rectangle. This first move is represented by yellow arrow going from top left “home rest” to top left corner of rectangle:

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The idea is to draw a rectangle as follows:

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If this sequence is sent using G-codes formatted as XY (i.e, M1 and M2 drivers), the job runs fine.

If you then send the job formatted as AY (i.e., M4 and M2 drivers), you get the following result:

On the initial move (going from home rest to top left of rectangle), only the Y axis (M2) moves, but the A axis (M4) does not move.

Once that first initial Y(M2) move completes, the next 4 moves (which draw the rectangle) do NOT move, not even the Y(M2) any longer. It’s like something is “locked up” or in a programming loop, or neverland, etc.

“But here I’m really not clear on what is supposed to work,…”
It is all supposed to work, the entire rectangle should be drawn.

“…not work,…”
I’m not sure what you mean by this, as stated above, it should all work.

“…and what (if anything) has changed…”
What has changed is that instead of sending G-codes such as G0 X1234 Y4321, etc, a switch has been made to sending G-codes such as G0 A1234 Y4321

“…(ie worked and now dosen’t…”
See above: G-codes targeting XY work, G-codes targeting AY do not

“…or didn’t work and now does”
That doesn’t apply here

This is all incredibly confusing. There shouldn’t be first moves and rectangles.

You should just send a single gcode to test a single axis at a time, and determine if that axis functions or not.
You should do this test with low speeds and accelerations to remove these as possible failure causes.
There should be no homing or anything else until you have basic movement working.

Just test each axis, one by one, with low speed, and tell me if one does not produce movement like it should.

OK, per your suggestion I did the following:

  • sent single G-code G0 X1000 \ at super slow speed
    result: worked, M1 driver moved the X axis

  • sent single G-code G0 Y1000 \ at super slow speed
    result: worked, M2 driver moved the Y axis

  • sent single G-code G0 A1000 \ at super slow speed
    result: failed, M4 driver did NOT move axis

And with the step/dir pins swapped for X(M1) and A(M4) ?

Where did you get the board? Could we get a picture of it?

Yes, the step/pins were swapped as follows:

For G0 X1000, the pins were set to

alpha_step_pin                               2.0              # Pin for alpha stepper step signal
alpha_dir_pin                                0.5             # Pin for alpha stepper direction

delta_step_pin                               2.3              # Pin for delta stepper step signal
delta_dir_pin                                0.22             # Pin for delta stepper direction

For G0 A1000, the pins were set as follows:

alpha_step_pin                               2.3              # Pin for alpha stepper step signal
alpha_dir_pin                                0.22             # Pin for alpha stepper direction

delta_step_pin                               2.0              # Pin for delta stepper step signal
delta_dir_pin                                0.5             # Pin for delta stepper direction

The board is currently enclosed within a plexiglass enclosure, so hopefully these pictures will suffice:

pic 1
pic 2
pic 3

Thanks.

So, either the M4 driver is broken (which is extremely unlikely considering they are fully tested before shipping, so if you haven’t actually used the driver yet, it didn’t have a chance to break and should be fine), or there is some problem with the setup (for example it doesn’t actually have the right firmware flashed etc).

Would you mind flashing the default firmware and config, and try to use M4 as an E axis instead of A, and see if it works then?
If it doesn’t, the driver is dead, if it does, there is something wrong with the setup.

Arthur, thanks for the feedback/help. Per your suggestion of flashing the default firmware and config, I decided to do them one at a time to (rather than simultaneously) to see if that could determine the particular culprit in this case.

I decided to first try swapping the config file. I replaced my config file with the latest config file from the smoothie site. Here is my original config file which would not allow me to communicate to the M4 driver. This site won’t allow me to post both complete config files because it is limiting me to 40,000 characters for this post, so I will eliminate some of the (I assume) superfluous contents:

# NOTE Lines must not exceed 132 characters
# Robot module configurations : general handling of movement G-codes and slicing into moves
default_feed_rate                            4000             # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for G1/G2/G3 moves
default_seek_rate                            4000             # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for G0 moves
mm_per_arc_segment                           0.5              # Arcs are cut into segments ( lines ), this is the length for
                                                              # these segments.  Smaller values mean more resolution,
                                                              # higher values mean faster computation
mm_per_line_segment                          0                # Lines can be cut into segments ( not usefull with cartesian
                                                              # coordinates robots ).

# Arm solution configuration : Cartesian robot. Translates mm positions into stepper positions
alpha_steps_per_mm                           500.0000               # Steps per mm for alpha stepper
beta_steps_per_mm                            500.0000               # Steps per mm for beta stepper
gamma_steps_per_mm                           500.0000             # Steps per mm for gamma stepper
delta_steps_per_mm                           500.0000             # Steps per mm for gamma stepper

# Planner module configuration : Look-ahead and acceleration configuration
planner_queue_size                           32               # DO NOT CHANGE THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING
acceleration                                 500            # Acceleration in mm/second/second.
z_acceleration                               3000             # Acceleration for Z only moves in mm/s^2, 0 uses acceleration which is the default. DO NOT SET ON A DELTA
acceleration_ticks_per_second                1000             # Number of times per second the speed is updated
junction_deviation                           0.05             # Similar to the old "max_jerk", in millimeters,
                                                              # see https://github.com/grbl/grbl/blob/master/planner.c
                                                              # and https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Configuring-Grbl-v0.8
                                                              # Lower values mean being more careful, higher values means being
                                                              # faster and have more jerk
#z_junction_deviation                        0.0              # for Z only moves, -1 uses junction_deviation, zero disables junction_deviation on z moves DO NOT SET ON A DELTA
#minimum_planner_speed                       0.0              # sets the minimum planner speed in mm/sec

# Stepper module configuration
microseconds_per_step_pulse                  1                # Duration of step pulses to stepper drivers, in microseconds
base_stepping_frequency                      180000           # Base frequency for stepping, higher gives smoother movement

# Cartesian axis speed limits
x_axis_max_speed                             30000            # mm/min
y_axis_max_speed                             30000            # mm/min
z_axis_max_speed                             30000            # mm/min
a_axis_max_speed                             30000            # mm/min

# Stepper module pins ( ports, and pin numbers, appending "!" to the number will invert a pin )
alpha_step_pin                               2.0              # Pin for alpha stepper step signal
alpha_dir_pin                                0.5             # Pin for alpha stepper direction
alpha_en_pin                                 0.4              # Pin for alpha enable pin
alpha_current                                1.5              # X stepper motor current
alpha_max_rate                               30000.0          # mm/min

beta_step_pin                                2.1              # Pin for beta stepper step signal
beta_dir_pin                                 0.11             # Pin for beta stepper direction
beta_en_pin                                  0.10             # Pin for beta enable
beta_current                                 1.5              # Y stepper motor current
beta_max_rate                                30000.0          # mm/min

gamma_step_pin                               2.2              # Pin for gamma stepper step signal
gamma_dir_pin                                0.20             # Pin for gamma stepper direction
gamma_en_pin                                 0.19             # Pin for gamma enable
gamma_current                                1.5              # Z stepper motor current
gamma_max_rate                               30000.0          # mm/min

delta_step_pin                               2.3              # Pin for delta stepper step signal
delta_dir_pin                                0.22             # Pin for delta stepper direction
delta_en_pin                                 0.21             # Pin for delta enable
delta_current                                1.5              # A stepper motor current
delta_max_rate                               30000.0          # mm/min

# Serial communications configuration ( baud rate default to 9600 if undefined )
uart0.baud_rate                              115200           # Baud rate for the default hardware serial port
second_usb_serial_enable                     false            # This enables a second usb serial port (to have both pronterface
                                                              # and a terminal connected)
#leds_disable                                true             # disable using leds after config loaded
#play_led_disable                            true             # disable the play led
pause_button_enable                          true             # Pause button enable
#pause_button_pin                            2.12             # pause button pin. default is P2.12
#kill_button_enable                           false            # set to true to enable a kill button
#kill_button_pin                              2.12             # kill button pin. default is same as pause button 2.12 (2.11 is another good choice)
#msd_disable                                 false            # disable the MSD (USB SDCARD) when set to true (needs special binary)
#dfu_enable                                  false            # for linux developers, set to true to enable DFU

# Extruder module configuration
#extruder.hotend.enable                          true             # Whether to activate the extruder module at all. All configuration is ignored if false
#extruder.hotend.steps_per_mm                    140              # Steps per mm for extruder stepper
#extruder.hotend.default_feed_rate               600              # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for moves where only the extruder moves
#extruder.hotend.acceleration                    500              # Acceleration for the stepper motor, as of 0.6, arbitrary ratio
#extruder.hotend.max_speed                       50               # mm/s

#extruder.hotend.step_pin                        2.3              # Pin for extruder step signal
#extruder.hotend.dir_pin                         0.22             # Pin for extruder dir signal
#extruder.hotend.en_pin                          0.21             # Pin for extruder enable signal

# extruder offset
#extruder.hotend.x_offset                        0                # x offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend.y_offset                        0                # y offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend.z_offset                        0                # z offset from origin in mm

# firmware retract settings when using G10/G11, these are the defaults if not defined, must be defined for each extruder if not using the defaults
#extruder.hotend.retract_length                  3               # retract length in mm
#extruder.hotend.retract_feedrate                45              # retract feedrate in mm/sec
#extruder.hotend.retract_recover_length          0               # additional length for recover
#extruder.hotend.retract_recover_feedrate        8               # recover feedrate in mm/sec (should be less than retract feedrate)
#extruder.hotend.retract_zlift_length            0               # zlift on retract in mm, 0 disables
#extruder.hotend.retract_zlift_feedrate          6000            # zlift feedrate in mm/min (Note mm/min NOT mm/sec)

delta_current                                1.5              # First extruder stepper motor current

Here is the latest config file I grabbed from the smoothie site:

# Smoothieboard configuration file, see http://smoothieware.org/configuring-smoothie
# NOTE Lines must not exceed 132 characters, and '#' characters mean what follows is ignored
## Robot module configurations : general handling of movement G-codes and slicing into moves

# Basic motion configuration
default_feed_rate                            4000             # Default speed (mm/minute) for G1/G2/G3 moves
default_seek_rate                            4000             # Default speed (mm/minute) for G0 moves
mm_per_arc_segment                           0.0              # Fixed length for line segments that divide arcs, 0 to disable
#mm_per_line_segment                         5                # Cut lines into segments this size
mm_max_arc_error                             0.01             # The maximum error for line segments that divide arcs 0 to disable
                                                              # note it is invalid for both the above be 0
                                                              # if both are used, will use largest segment length based on radius

# Arm solution configuration : Cartesian robot. Translates mm positions into stepper positions
# See http://smoothieware.org/stepper-motors
alpha_steps_per_mm                           80               # Steps per mm for alpha ( X ) stepper
beta_steps_per_mm                            333.3333         # Steps per mm for beta ( Y ) stepper
gamma_steps_per_mm                           1600             # Steps per mm for gamma ( Z ) stepper

# Planner module configuration : Look-ahead and acceleration configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/motion-control
acceleration                                 3000             # Acceleration in mm/second/second.
#z_acceleration                              500              # Acceleration for Z only moves in mm/s^2, 0 uses acceleration which is the default. DO NOT SET ON A DELTA
junction_deviation                           0.05             # See http://smoothieware.org/motion-control#junction-deviation
#z_junction_deviation                        0.0              # For Z only moves, -1 uses junction_deviation, zero disables junction_deviation on z moves DO NOT SET ON A DELTA

# Cartesian axis speed limits
x_axis_max_speed                             30000            # Maximum speed in mm/min
y_axis_max_speed                             30000            # Maximum speed in mm/min
z_axis_max_speed                             30000              # Maximum speed in mm/min

# Stepper module configuration
# Pins are defined as  ports, and pin numbers, appending "!" to the number will invert a pin
# See http://smoothieware.org/pin-configuration and http://smoothieware.org/pinout
alpha_step_pin                               2.0              # Pin for alpha stepper step signal
alpha_dir_pin                                0.5              # Pin for alpha stepper direction, add '!' to reverse direction
alpha_en_pin                                 0.4              # Pin for alpha enable pin
alpha_current                                1.5              # X stepper motor current
alpha_max_rate                               30000.0          # Maximum rate in mm/min

beta_step_pin                                2.1              # Pin for beta stepper step signal
beta_dir_pin                                 0.11             # Pin for beta stepper direction, add '!' to reverse direction
beta_en_pin                                  0.10             # Pin for beta enable
beta_current                                 1.5              # Y stepper motor current
beta_max_rate                                30000.0          # Maxmimum rate in mm/min

gamma_step_pin                               2.2              # Pin for gamma stepper step signal
gamma_dir_pin                                0.20             # Pin for gamma stepper direction, add '!' to reverse direction
gamma_en_pin                                 0.19             # Pin for gamma enable
gamma_current                                1.5              # Z stepper motor current
gamma_max_rate                               30000.0            # Maximum rate in mm/min

## Extruder module configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/extruder
extruder.hotend.enable                          true          # Whether to activate the extruder module at all. All configuration is ignored if false
extruder.hotend.steps_per_mm                    140           # Steps per mm for extruder stepper
extruder.hotend.default_feed_rate               600           # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for moves where only the extruder moves
extruder.hotend.acceleration                    500           # Acceleration for the stepper motor mm/sec²
extruder.hotend.max_speed                       50            # Maximum speed in mm/s

extruder.hotend.step_pin                        2.3           # Pin for extruder step signal
extruder.hotend.dir_pin                         0.22          # Pin for extruder dir signal ( add '!' to reverse direction )
extruder.hotend.en_pin                          0.21          # Pin for extruder enable signal

# Extruder offset
#extruder.hotend.x_offset                        0            # X offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend.y_offset                        0            # Y offset from origin in mm
#extruder.hotend.z_offset                        0            # Z offset from origin in mm

# Firmware retract settings when using G10/G11, these are the defaults if not defined, must be defined for each extruder if not using the defaults
#extruder.hotend.retract_length                  3            # Retract length in mm
#extruder.hotend.retract_feedrate                45           # Retract feedrate in mm/sec
#extruder.hotend.retract_recover_length          0            # Additional length for recover
#extruder.hotend.retract_recover_feedrate        8            # Recover feedrate in mm/sec (should be less than retract feedrate)
#extruder.hotend.retract_zlift_length            0            # Z-lift on retract in mm, 0 disables
#extruder.hotend.retract_zlift_feedrate          6000         # Z-lift feedrate in mm/min (Note mm/min NOT mm/sec)

delta_current                                    1.5          # First extruder stepper motor current

Good news: upon JUST using the latest config file, everything worked, including the M4 driver, as follows:

long complex jobs which used thousands of G-codes formatted as G0 X1234 Y4321
result: worked great, M1 and M2 axis both work

long complex jobs which used thousands of G-codes formatted as G0 E1234 Y4321
result: worked great, M4 and M2 axis both work, M4 replacing M1 as expected

long complex jobs which used thousands of G-codes formatted as G0 X1234 E4321
result: worked great, M1 and M4 axis both work, M4 replacing M2 as expected

So everything seems to be working fine, upon merely using latest config file from site

In going through the config file differences to determine the “culprit”, it seems to me (I could be wrong) that the main difference is this:

My original config file:

# Extruder module configuration
#extruder.hotend.enable                          true             # Whether to activate the extruder module at all. All configuration is ignored if false
#extruder.hotend.steps_per_mm                    140              # Steps per mm for extruder stepper
#extruder.hotend.default_feed_rate               600              # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for moves where only the extruder moves
#extruder.hotend.acceleration                    500              # Acceleration for the stepper motor, as of 0.6, arbitrary ratio
#extruder.hotend.max_speed                       50               # mm/s

#extruder.hotend.step_pin                        2.3              # Pin for extruder step signal
#extruder.hotend.dir_pin                         0.22             # Pin for extruder dir signal
#extruder.hotend.en_pin                          0.21             # Pin for extruder enable signal

Notice that the extruder is disabled in my original config file.

Now, the config file I just grabbed from smoothie site:

## Extruder module configuration
# See http://smoothieware.org/extruder
extruder.hotend.enable                          true          # Whether to activate the extruder module at all. All configuration is ignored if false
extruder.hotend.steps_per_mm                    140           # Steps per mm for extruder stepper
extruder.hotend.default_feed_rate               600           # Default rate ( mm/minute ) for moves where only the extruder moves
extruder.hotend.acceleration                    500           # Acceleration for the stepper motor mm/sec²
extruder.hotend.max_speed                       50            # Maximum speed in mm/s

extruder.hotend.step_pin                        2.3           # Pin for extruder step signal
extruder.hotend.dir_pin                         0.22          # Pin for extruder dir signal ( add '!' to reverse direction )
extruder.hotend.en_pin                          0.21          # Pin for extruder enable signal

Notice that the default config from site has extruder enabled, AND step/dir pins set to 2.3 and 0.22

So, as far as I can tell, having the config file set to enable Extruder with pins set for M4 driver, allows G-godes to successfully drive the M4 axis, either replacing the X or Y axis per desire.

The curious thing, is why adding the Delta sequence to my original config file:

delta_step_pin                               2.3              # Pin for delta stepper step signal
delta_dir_pin                                0.22             # Pin for delta stepper direction
delta_en_pin                                 0.21             # Pin for delta enable
delta_current                                1.5              # A stepper motor current
delta_max_rate                               30000.0          # mm/min

…doesn’t add the capability of referencing the M4 driver via A axis g-codes.